# ANSI S20.20 Re-Certification

**URL:** https://forum.esda.org/t/ansi-s20-20-re-certification/503
**Category:** General Discussion
**Created:** [June 14, 2023, 5:08am UTC](https://forum.esda.org/t/ansi-s20-20-re-certification/503 "2023-06-14T05:08:55Z")
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### Author: ![kahkeotwong](https://forum.esda.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/439d5e/32.png) [@kahkeotwong](https://forum.esda.org/u/kahkeotwong)
#### Post date: [June 14, 2023, 5:08am UTC](https://forum.esda.org/t/ansi-s20-20-re-certification/503/1 "2023-06-14T05:08:55Z")

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Hi,  
Our company is ANSI S20.20 certified since 2017, and we are doing yearly re-certification by 3rd party(TUV) all these years.

I would like to ask is it compulsory do it yearly?  
Or, is it an option we can perform “bi-yearly” or “1 year certification audit/1 year surveillance audit”. If yes, what is the condition?

Thanks,  
Wong

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### Author: ![Gmartinez](https://forum.esda.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/898d66/32.png) [@Gmartinez](https://forum.esda.org/u/Gmartinez)
#### Post date: [June 16, 2023, 1:05am UTC](https://forum.esda.org/t/ansi-s20-20-re-certification/503/2 "2023-06-16T01:05:55Z")

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Hi Wong,

ANSI S20.20 has its own certification guidelines. This is currently set on Certification/Re-certification annually. There is no surveillance unlike other certification.  
Questions: Can you expound why do you want it bi-yearly? Any specific reason why you want it bi-yearly?

Thanks  
GM

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### Author: ![kahkeotwong](https://forum.esda.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/439d5e/32.png) [@kahkeotwong](https://forum.esda.org/u/kahkeotwong)
#### Post date: [June 17, 2023, 3:31am UTC](https://forum.esda.org/t/ansi-s20-20-re-certification/503/3 "2023-06-17T03:31:34Z")

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Hi GM,  
Our company management is throwing question if ANSI audit could follow like other certification(e.g IATF, ISO)  
As Product Qualification activity decreasing over time(one time activity), the weight of yearly audit will be more on compliance verification, may be alternate year surveillance audit is sufficient.  
May we understand the rational reason the association set as annually certification/Re-certification?

Regards,  
Wong

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### Author: ![JohnK](https://forum.esda.org/user_avatar/forum.esda.org/johnk/32/24_2.png) [@JohnK](https://forum.esda.org/u/JohnK)
#### Post date: [June 19, 2023, 1:02pm UTC](https://forum.esda.org/t/ansi-s20-20-re-certification/503/4 "2023-06-19T13:02:16Z")

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Hi Wong,

When the program was initially developed a surveillance assessment was considered. However, there would not be much difference between a full assessment and surveillance assessment. At most, for a large company, a full assessment would take at most two days where a surveillance assessment might be 1.5 days. The cost difference would be minimal.

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### Author: ![kahkeotwong](https://forum.esda.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/439d5e/32.png) [@kahkeotwong](https://forum.esda.org/u/kahkeotwong)
#### Post date: [June 20, 2023, 6:47am UTC](https://forum.esda.org/t/ansi-s20-20-re-certification/503/5 "2023-06-20T06:47:10Z")

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Hi John,  
Thanks for enlighten.